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Coyote Attacks Dog

A coyote attacked a dog in the 1300 block of Brighton Drive in Wheaton Tuesday night, police say.

A coyote attacked a dog in the 1300 block of Brighton Drive in Wheaton Tuesday night, police said Thursday.

The coyote jumped over a six-foot fence around 9:15 p.m. and grabbed the dog, police said. The owner saw the coyote and yelled at it until it left. The dog will recover, police said.

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If you've spotted a coyote recently, let us know in the comments and we'll add the location to our map

unheard December 06, 2012 at 03:03 PM
Chrisrus, I have said the irony is that since I have absolutely no fear of coyotes, and don't want them killed, I should actually be begging you all to call in trappers. Why? The coyotes will procreate even more! If you believe only one thing I say, this is it. Please check. Don't ask the trappers, they only want your money, I think we all agree there. Every coyote expert agrees. The people who study them day and night in other words. This is not me, I only see and follow their guidelines since they have done this for decades, in some cases. So does the city now. This is why the city won't pay for trappers. They know this will lead to more coyotes. Rewind two and a half years ago when they begged the city not to trap/kill since in a couple of years more coyotes would be here. The city didn't listen and... viola... here we are. They can't stop idiots who choose not to believe this from hiring trappers but, our tax money certainly isn't going to pay for it anymore. Why? Again, simple, it won't work and in fact increases coyote populations. Do the research yourself.
MK December 06, 2012 at 03:12 PM
Unheard. Please stop your ranting and foolish bantering. You're a bonified nut. Nothing you have said will make a difference. Do you get a thrill when someone acknowledges your posts? You've said all you need to say. Please Stop your knee-jerk posts so I can stop getting over 300 email notifications. Now go take your pill and later you can have a tea party with all your stuffed animals.
unheard December 06, 2012 at 03:25 PM
MK, I forgot to mention that ever since you ranted about wondering how coyotes taste you lost any and all credibility from well, everyone. Please just post elsewhere as we really don't care to hear your "contributions." Thanks!
MK December 06, 2012 at 03:44 PM
Unheard, what's wrong with wondering if Coyotes are "good eating"? It's called humor, making light of an unmanageable situation such as coyote overpopulation. Coyote hats and coats are all the rave. Maybe Wheaton can balance the budget by culling the population and making winter apparel? Oh no! I've just lost all my credibility!
unheard December 07, 2012 at 01:10 AM
MK it has to be funny to be called humor. Try harder, please. Thanks! I almost forgot, don't try here, try elsewhere. Thanks again!!
Vincent December 07, 2012 at 02:17 AM
MK, your sense of "humor" is a bit too dry for my taste. When it comes to the idea of creatures being killed, particularly needlessly, I find I'm not in much of a laughing mood.
Vincent December 07, 2012 at 02:34 AM
Thanks for the great posts, Unheard! My being here is rather superfluous, it seems! Nonetheless, it seems there is the usual nonsense about trappers and hunters being called in. It's a wonder that no one has taken out a contract with a professional hitman yet--perhaps they could start by roughing the coyotes up a bit, then move on to breaking their knee-caps before getting down to the real business. Interesting that as soon as you say that a trapper might be unstable that Chrisrus goes berserk and cries about slander as if these people were Rhodes scholars who just happened to have an odd hobby. She should see some of the stuff that I saw about trappers, where they let their dogs rip apart live trapped coyotes as they video tape it to post online--now if that doesn't scream of derangement, I'm not sure what does! But clearly--Chrisrus being the expert on everything under the sun and everyone else being mere idiots next to the god-like Chrisrus intellect--the practice is just a little eccentric oddness in an otherwise wholesome, salt-of-the-earth trapper.
unheard December 07, 2012 at 03:07 AM
I agree Vincent, chrisrus has made it clear, time and time again, at this point that her research skills are flawless, as long as it suits her point. She ignores comments constantly that don't suit her. I highly doubt she has seen some of the horror we have, in looking at these horrific sites. If so, I don't think we would ever hear hunt or trap again from her. If she has, I agree, derangement is simply the only answer.
chrisrus December 07, 2012 at 05:26 AM
There’s no need to speculate: In Wheaton, only two people may trap Coyotes: • Brad Lundsteen, Suburban Wildlife Control: 630-443-4500 • Gary Zirves, Illinois Wildlife Control: 815-337-2719 That is all. There is no one else. If want to know how it will be done, or their backgrounds, or their characters, call them and ask. Maybe Charlotte could write a story and find out if any of these nasty insinuations about them are true. I think you will find them to be good, informed, professional people. There is no need to worry about mafia hit men or crazy, sadistic hunters or to speak about those who would trap any coyotes as if we all don’t already know exactly who they are. If you decide to say bad things about Brad and Gary, you had better be able to back them up, because otherwise it feels like slander to me.
MK December 07, 2012 at 05:27 AM
Hey you two, get a room!
unheard December 07, 2012 at 02:05 PM
chrisrus all we have to speculate about is why you said previously that trapping won't work and have now repeatedly ignored that question. We don't ignore your questions but since you repeatedly ignore ours-since they aren't "convenient."
unheard December 07, 2012 at 02:07 PM
Again chrisrus, since you are having difficulty-why did you say before that trapping won't work. Remember, there was a time when you were using your common sense, or facts or for whatever reason, we were in agreement that trapping won't work. We have yet to see you respond to this directly.
unheard December 07, 2012 at 02:18 PM
Vincent and I have been consistent since day one! Please check. And, MK though it may bother you, we won't be "getting a room." Though it may be impossible for you to fathom, many, many other people-in fact-I would say most, don't delight in killing animals when such animals are simply trying to eat. Should we "get a room" with much more than half the population, since only unstable individuals kill for fun? You can try all you want to claim that you are the majority but, statistics, facts, all those words that make everyone here uncomfortable tell a different story. However, I can't sell anything to someone who chooses not to buy. I can give names, numbers and all the facts but if others still choose to ignore them-like chrisrus, what more can you possibly do/say?
unheard December 07, 2012 at 02:27 PM
chrisrus, it's nice to know that presumably, when your child or children grow up to be trappers and hunters you will have pride and adoration for that choice. You should brag and boast constantly. I choose to teach my children NOT to kill-silly me!!!!
chrisrus December 07, 2012 at 04:24 PM
When/where did I say that? I said: "The Wheaton Coyote policy says: "Once attacks on pets have become frequent or public area food sources have been used by coyotes for extended periods of time, full control techniques will likely be required to prevent continued attacks on pets or possible attacks on humans. Of all the full control techniques used to date, trapping has had the greatest observed effect of reinstalling a fear of humans into the local coyote population (Baker 1998). Where 2-5 coyotes are trapped in a problem locality, the remaining coyotes will often disperse, although this partially depends on the size of the area and the number of coyote family units in residence and the existing level of wariness in the animals. At locations where leg hold traps have been used successfully, coyote problems typically have not reoccurred for at least two years and usually longer (Timm 2004)."" Trapping works.
unheard December 07, 2012 at 06:15 PM
chrisrus trapping does not work! I know, I know, you think you are smarter than the city officials but, If it worked they would do and you and I would pay for it with our hard-earned tax money. Right? You actually have the nerve to say you "never said that." It was waaay back in the beginning when we were discussing coyote experts telling people that no, it won't work and yes, there will then in fact be an increase in coyote populations. Remember? You were sounding far more sensible then!! Then you changed your tune and even said that we should fear our children would be snatched. Then, you foolishly brought up Kelly Keen, one of two cases in America and Canada in how many years? Do you remember? I doubt it. See you can't find a needle in a haystack and then base ever post on that needle. We see right through that-clear as day. I hear you when you say you've changed your mind and "trapping works." I have genuinely heard you, all along.I simply disagree as does the city, which makes you mad at me, somehow. Misdirected anger, I think. Sorry, isn't it apparent that you have lost the war at this point? Or are you saying that you know more than the city officials?
unheard December 07, 2012 at 06:24 PM
One last though, chrisrus. If the city truly thought that the coyotes were such a danger wouldn't they protect the citizens? If the "problem" coyotes had reached that threshold somehow-mind you-we've been discussing this for years now, don't you think more could/would be done? Be careful in your response, you don't want to slander anyone, right?
julie December 08, 2012 at 12:17 AM
I did some more reading and it does make sense that if you kill coyotes, the ones left thrive. For (a really bad) example... Imagine 10 coyotes and 10 whoppers. Each coyote eats one whopper a day, every day (your food supply is 10 whoppers a day). Kill 5 coyotes and the remaining yotes get TWO whoppers every day. Those remaining 5 will be living large. They will get fat and mate like wild animals. Until they reproduce to the point that there's 20 of them and then they only get 1/2 a whopper each per day. When do they start starving off? When there's only 1/12th of a whopper for each coyote? No... that's when the start eating yorkie's, schnoodles, bischons and minpins. So..... instead of killing them, we really have to start catching and neutering them. It truly is the only solution. And it's much more humane than killing them!
MK December 08, 2012 at 12:59 AM
A re-post for you Julie --- The Wheaton Animal Control was presenting an alternative to Wheaton Dog Owners for controlling the coyote population. It seemed that, after years of the homeowners using the tried and true methods of shooting and/or trapping the predators, the tree-huggers had a "more humane" solution. What they proposed was for the animals to be captured alive, the males castrated, then let loose again... and the population would be controlled. Well, all the homeowners thought about this amazing idea for a couple of minutes. Finally, a grey-haired old man in the back stood up and said, "People, I don't think you understand the problem. These coyotes ain't "violating" our dogs - they're eatin' 'em." (Hopefully that wasn't tooo funny or too "dry" of humor for the liberals)
julie December 08, 2012 at 01:59 AM
I've read and repeated that story... it IS funny! And true. There isn't really any other solution to the problem, though, other than killing ALL coyotes and that's never going to happen, obviously. It's not fun to live in fear every time you take your dogs outside. Since our incident the other night, I've been talking to people and hearing some amazing stories. One was from the check-out woman at Petco in Danada... she said one of her customers told her how he was walking his 2 boxers on leashes (not sure if the dogs were full grown or puppies) and they were charged by coyotes (she didn't mention how many). The guy had to physically lift his dogs by their collars to get them off the ground, away from the coyotes. He yelled and kicked at them and they ran away. Scary, huh? I'm sure he's not too comfortable walking his dogs at night anymore! Another point that hasn't been brought up.... kids walking dogs. My 16yo daughter is terrified of going out in the yard at night with the dogs. Practically in tears. We told her a million times that the coyotes won't hurt HER but she knows her dogs are in danger. How can I go out and have a nice, care-free dinner when I have to worry about all of this? They tell us to keep our dogs inside from dusk to dawn... really? Where are they supposed to pee before bed? Or are our dogs expected to just hold it from 4:45 pm-7am? Again... this is out of control.
Vincent December 08, 2012 at 02:41 AM
Julie, your example of the coyote situation is correct. Killing the coyotes opens up the territory for other coyotes to move in and prosper. Also, they procreate to fill the potential of the area food supply. On the other side of things, nature thins the population when there isn't enough food, diseases, predators and various hazards. In the end, everything balances, but that leaves us at the present situation in Wheaton. I think that what you did the other night worked: the coyote realized that it couldn't just come along and grab your dogs and it had to leave. Animals of all sorts tend to suss out who is the more dominant through behavior. People tend to have trouble with animals when they show fear of them, which is a natural response in some cases, because the animal then imagines that it is the more dominant. It's a simplified explanation but for the most part consistent. In the Adirondacks, they tell folks not to run away if they see a bear (black bear are still somewhat common in those parts) because it will then chase and attack you; if you stand your ground and yell at it, the bear will usually run away. You're saying to the bear, "I'm not afraid of you. I'm being aggressive and you should be more afraid of me." Same with the coyotes--tell them that they came to the wrong place to get a meal. Same for the guy with the boxers--he let the coyotes know that he was in charge and they had to give up.
Vincent December 08, 2012 at 03:02 AM
MK, you're just plain silly at times. And you should be less critical of so-called tree-huggers because (and this is not to say you in particular, though you do use the term like a curse) there are those who would gladly cut down every tree on Earth to grind up and paste into fiber-board to make more crappy furniture and such. Really, where would we be without trees and plants in general? Dead, that's where. Without the flora and fauna, this planet is a dead rock and left alone on it, our days would be extremely numbered. These are OUR trees and OUR animals and OUR future--both yours and mine and our children's future--all tied to preserving the resources that we have. What's so liberal about that? That's just plain horse-sense in my book. Here's a notion, too--why is it that self-described conservatives want to do anything but conservation?
Vincent December 08, 2012 at 03:04 AM
Haven't forgotten about you, Unheard! Thanks for all the great posts today! Wink-Wink!
unheard December 10, 2012 at 01:30 AM
Julie, I have to agree with Vincent's post to you. Also, I really like your humane approach! I wish we could catch them too. It would be great if the city would open a coyote habitat where they care for and study them. They could make it educational, maybe even charge people for admittance. Humane wildlife viewing is becoming very popular, and can also bring in needed funds.(Everyone wins.) I think if you and your daughter continue to show them that you are in control, you will be fine. I hope you have a happy holiday season!
unheard December 10, 2012 at 01:37 AM
Vincent, I agree with your post to Julie. I think what she is doing and what she is teaching her daughter is the best choice. They are following the city guidelines, and being proactive. It would be nice if everyone handled the situation-which can be scary- in the same way. As for your "Wink-WInk," though I'm very flattered, I am a happily married lady.
chrisrus December 10, 2012 at 06:17 AM
This video says to “instruct children to avoid coyotes, leaving the hazing to adults.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LQMxZo0YSM (03:59)
Vincent December 11, 2012 at 02:41 AM
Unheard, he must be a very lucky coyote! No more winking from me then!
Vincent December 11, 2012 at 02:47 AM
Chrisrus, Julie's daughter is sixteen years old! At sixteen don't you think that she can handle hazing a coyote?
unheard December 17, 2012 at 02:23 PM
Vincent, you are very kind!I can't lie, I am the lucky coyote, he is a wonderful man. I am surprised that you are single. You are obviously smart, kind, and you clearly like animals! I hope you have a great holiday season.
Vincent December 18, 2012 at 02:17 AM
Unheard, as the coyotes say, "Yip-yip-yip!" In human language that translates to, "Happy Holidays to you!"

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